Mystery Solved?

Gantros · Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 244

I was rereading the comics and something suddenly came to me, what if Edelweiss was Mary's mother? Based on this hypothesis a lot of plot points became clearer. First, it would explain Simon Blue's dislike of BonBon in general, seeing as Edelweiss chose the Delight Castle (and by extension, the entire town) over him.
Second, it would explain why Edelweiss was banished from BonBon due to Betty and Mary's friendship. Betty's close association with Edelweiss made the truth of Mary's mother dangerously close to be revealed to Mary, and Simon likely was going to banish Betty when Edelweiss intervened for the sake of Mary's happiness, going in her place.
Finally, Betty herself is probably unaware of this connection, although some of the older residents of BonBon (those who lived there prior to Mary's birth), are forbidden under BonBon's Law to even acknowledge the relationship Edelweiss had with Simon and Mary.

This is all theory based on my observations. This is not canon information.

Ronald · Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 2693

A very good (and interesting) hypothesis!! Hmmm......

:curious:

You might be on to something....

Miss Scorpia · Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 439

I have been thinking the same thing! :shock:

Ashton Gray · Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 3003

You are not the first one to come to this hypothesis, and I'm sure you will not be the last. This was discussed for some time quite some time ago. If you like, I can hunt down the conversation for you, so you may see for yourself where it went.

Xebulon · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1386

Probably under the "Theories About Bon Bon" topic.

Symphony · Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 581

If Edelweiss is Mary's mother, then that could certainly lead to a very happy resolution of the story, with the two of them being united. But I can't help but wonder, if Edelweiss truly is Mary's mother, would she really give up her daughter like that? Even though Simon is a very powerful man, would that really stop a woman like her from seeing her daughter?

But Edelweiss obviously knows a lot about Mary. Perhaps she knew Mary's mother. Whether it's Edelweiss or someone else, I can definately imagine that it's someone who worked at the Delight Castle. That could be why Simon made the first law of Bon Bon, to hide his shame from everyone else.

I just have no clue as to why he can't just move away from the town. :?

Ronald · Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Posts: 2693

Edelweiss being Mary's mother might be too easy. :-)

This discussion existed in a previous thread. I'd have to hunt for it so that people can connect the dots.

Anybody have a handy link to the previous threads?

Corran · Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 295

Hmmmmm... very interesting. :curious:

JohnnyPsycho · Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 1124

I did a quick little search, but only found a little bit of discussion about the "Edelweiss is Mary's mother" theory...

http://forums.pleasurebonbon.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3653

Personally, I doubt Edelweiss is Mary's mother, but can definitely see her perhaps having known Mary's mother, probably before "Mrs. Blue" met Simon or just before she mysteriously "disappears" as well... Still, not a bad bit of theorizing on the part of Gantros.

green_fox · Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 270

Hmm probably Symphony is right and Mary's mother used to work at the Delight Castle. I think the reason Simon can't move has to do something with the Talon's Clan... someone should ask Red about this :)

Xebulon · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1386

If I remember right Mr. Blue hasn't moved farther away than he has (let's face it, he's not exactly "near" the town) due to business reasons. Something about a diamond mine, I believe.

Symphony · Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 581

I was thinking of the mine as well, but I can't really remember reading much about it.
Though in issue 3, Simon says that he's tied down to the house until Mary gets married. I have no idea why.

Xebulon · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1386

It's likely that he's also staying for Mary's sake as the anonimity of Bon Bon could be used to protect her as well. From what though, or if at all, remains to be seen. Once she's married she'd live with her husband, preferably somewhere far away from Bon Bon if Simon gets his wish.

Symphony · Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 581

There's definately something about that first law of Bon Bon, as I think that Simon could very well have had some really personal reasons for making that law. Something that probably has to do with Mary and her mother. That's my guess at least.

The anonymity and his position in Bon Bon, are certainly possible reasons why he is staying there with Mary until she marries. He might not be able to control her life and protect her from prying eyes in any other town.

Xebulon · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1386

Precisely.

Symphony · Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 581

I just can't fit in the Clan of the Talon in this, but that's also because we don't really know much about them yet. I think it's pretty safe to assume though, that they play a significant role in many of the mysteries of Bon Bon.

kommy · Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Posts: 495

I remember this theory. I just find it interesting that if that was the case, it was Simon who ended up with custody of Mary, rather than her mother. It's a little unusual, but it does point to either Simon being admirably devoted to his child and/or her mother was... lacking in that department.

JohnnyPsycho · Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 1124

Then again, perhaps things were different in the Victorian era as far as cultural assumptions of who would be best suited to raise the child (mother vs. father)... If there had been some sort of divorce or something wherein custody of Mary was under dispute, it could simply be that Simon, being as rich as he is, was deemed to be more financially secure and thus better able to provide a stable homelife to his child.

Then again, this is still assuming that Mary's mother is alive or was in any capacity to plead for custody of her child in any way. Or that Mr. Blue simply didn't buy off some judges or something...

Shadow9808 · Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 491

The theories I keep seeing constantly brain my boggle.

Xebulon · Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 1386

JohnnyPsycho wrote: Then again, perhaps things were different in the Victorian era as far as cultural assumptions of who would be best suited to raise the child (mother vs. father)... If there had been some sort of divorce or something wherein custody of Mary was under dispute, it could simply be that Simon, being as rich as he is, was deemed to be more financially secure and thus better able to provide a stable homelife to his child.

Then again, this is still assuming that Mary's mother is alive or was in any capacity to plead for custody of her child in any way. Or that Mr. Blue simply didn't buy off some judges or something...

You're also assuming that Simon and Mary's mother were married in the first place. If Edleweiss is the mother it's possible that Mary was an... unexpected result of her and Simon's coupling.